Why Deception And Trickery Makes Cycling Great | The GCN Show Ep. 304


– From Abuja, Nigeria. – [All] Welcome to the GCN Show! – Welcome to the GCN Show, brought to you by our
friends over at Wiggle. – This week, dishonesty deceit, trickery, the reasons why we
actually love pro cycling. – We have spy shots of
prototype SRAM groupset, the lowdown on what’s definitely
the hardest race of 2019, and why golf is the new cycling. – [Simon] Fore! – [Daniel] On to this, that’s
going towards being baseball. – [Simon] Oh, yeah, always got some weight behind that now, doesn’t he? – I know that.
(Charge fanfare music) (upbeat electronic music) (logo swooshing) (heavy object thudding) (air rushing) This week in the world of cycling, we learned that Sven Nys, the best cyclist racer of
all time, he’s still got it. (whip cutting through air) – Ah, that’s so cool, isn’t it? Well, unfortunately this guy
showed him how to do it better. This guy being mini-Sven,
his son, Thibau Nys. (kids cheering)
How good is that? – [Daniel] Smooth as silk. That was seriously impressive
actually, isn’t it? – [Simon] Seriously good riding. – We also learned this week
that Lance Armstrong is back. That’s right, back competing
at the epic mountain bike stage race, La Ruta de los Conquistadores. – [Simon] Yeah, for those
of you worried that Lance is somehow violating his
lifetime ban, don’t be, because the race actually doesn’t come under warranted jurisdiction. – And for those of you
who think he’s there for somehow evading his
punishment, you needn’t be worried, because the races are
punishment in itself. Look at it, it’s like torture. – [Simon] Yeah, I bet they’re gonna send Johan Bruyneel next year as well. And hopefully me, too. Aw, yeah, that’s how my bike– – [Daniel] You were gonna do it? – [Simon] Aw, daze, I
don’t want to get into it. – [Daniel] I’ll come and watch. – [Simon] Oh, thanks many, yeah. I’ve heard it’s quite
demanding to watch as well. Really warm, humid. Anyway, all this talk about Lance, particularly following
along from last week where Bradley Wiggins made those comments about Lance.
– Yes. Do you remember the ones
that where he said that Lance is the perfect tour winner. – Yup, that’s the one,
and he’s got us thinking about cycling’s relationship
with cheats and cheating. Because is this some kind
of skewed logic in our sport that somehow justifies
that kind of behavior, because even if you are the
most law abiding bike racer of all time, there’s is
still a massive element to which our sport,
cycling, rewards devious, and dishonest, and underhand behavior. – And we should (mumbles)
right here, shouldn’t we? The terms you just used there do not mean that we’re talking about
doping or perhaps motors within bikes because they
do not make any sport great, however, what we do mean is
the fact that cycling is one of the few sports we can
think of where you can win big races when you’re
not the best athlete. – Exactly, and it all
boils down ultimately to wind and the speed of
which you have to ride because you can shelter on a bike, and because therefore you
can exploit the hard work of your fellow competitors,
you can therefore legitimately kind of
cheat your way to victory, if that’s not a complete oxymoron. But that is the reason,
fundamentally, why we think that professional road cycling
is the most interesting, fascinating sport in the entire world. This is why, but do you agree? – Well, we’ll find out. I agree, I think it’s an
incredibly fascinating sport and it gets more fascinating the more you understand what’s going on. To the untrained eye,
it’s pretty quite boring. In fact, many newcomers
will ask the same question, wouldn’t they? And many of you would have
been asked this, as well. If he or she is the
strongest rider in the race, why don’t they just ride away and win? – Ah, yes. And in answering that
seemingly simple question, you realize just how complicated our sport can actually end up being. Chess on wheels is perhaps
overused in our jeep, but it is true, you
genuinely can win bike races by purely outmaneuvering
a strong opponent. – [Daniel] For example? – Well, in a breakaway, you skip turns because you’re having a drink. – [Daniel] Or you’re eating. – [Simon] Yeah, or you
toned as sports director. – [Daniel] Or you wanna aid the breakaway because you don’t want to
chase down a teammate in front. – [Simon] Yeah, or you
waiting for teammates to come up from behind. – [Daniel] Or you’re just marking it for a teammate that’s leading the race. – Or you’re just pretending to be tired when actually you’re feeling really good. – Oh, that’s a good, but
the other way around, you’re pretending to feel good when actually you feel shattered. – Yeah, and then you
attack when someone else is having something to eat. – Yeah, or you attack on the other side of the central reservations, and they can’t get onto your
wheel and get slipstreaming. – Yeah.
– Et cetera, et cetera. – And when you get brought back, woff, a teammates goes over the top. – This has become like
a Tactics 101 in here. – Master class. – Ah, here you should point out is that the strongest riders
do, of course, sometimes win. A good example is being the Tour de France and the Giro Rosa, and
Fleche-ville, I guess. Only the strongest win in those races, although that said, those
winners still do have to be pretty careful with
their expenditure of energy. – That’s true, but there is
no denying that a rider like, I don’t know, Thomas Voeckler, would not have won
anywhere near the amount that he did were he not
for being pretty much the cleverest, canniest
rider in the peleton. – Agreed, and apparently Rui Costa is another example of being canny. I have heard from two separate
sources within the peleton that he is known for
not pulling his weight in the breakway.
– Really? – Is that frustrating for
his breakaway companions? Absolutely, it has to
be infuriating for them. Does Rui Costa care about it? Goodness, no.
– No. – Not at all, I mean, he’s
won 25 races in his career and most of them are
really quite prestigious. The World Championships,
three stages in Tour de France being a couple of the examples. – And what’s remarkable
is that he can have a reputation within the peleton, and perhaps not pulling
his weight in a breakaway, but yet he still gets away with it. It’s just fascinating, isn’t it? Now should we care as the
spectators of these races? Yes, but only so that we
actually celebrate smart riders. Celebrate their race craft, but then, you end up in a position where
you have to ask the question, well, at what point does
getting one over your fellow competitors in a race then
constitute an unfair advantage? – Well, that’s in when they break a rule. – Well, no, I don’t think
it’s as simple as that, is it? Because we’ve seen time and again, certainly the last few
years, where it’s quite clear that ethics and rules
don’t really match up. There’s this huge gray area
in the middle, isn’t it? And so maybe a bike race
is just actually exposing the different ethical boundaries
of the people competing. – But if you’re talking
about ethical boundaries, what about that particular cycling nuance which is interteam alliances, because that happens a lot, doesn’t it? In a breakaway, your
breakaway companions are kind of your allies and your
enemies at the same time. And in some rare
situations in stage races, a breakaway companion can be
your ally right to the finish because you mgiht say to
them, you take the stage because I’m gonna take
the leader’s jersey. – Yeah, I mean that’s
almost like you can argue it’s cheating us, the fans, isn’t it? – Well, it shouldn’t be banned though because it is those very quirky nuances that make our sport of cycling great. If you took away all
those tactical aspects that we’ve just been speaking about, what you would end up with
is, well, you basically end up with a calender full of
ton-trows, wouldn’t you? – Ah!
(dramatic horror music) Oh, God!
– That is some thought. – Oh, my God. So ultimately this all
boils down to the fact that the race of truth
is just no where near as interesting as the race of deception. – No, it’s not, long live legal cheating, that’s what I say.
– That’s right, yeah. Well, anyway, this is
where you will come in. What do you think about this? I mean, is cycling’s kind
of weird relationship with dopers from the past
actually just part of the fact that deception is a
fundamental part of cycling? – I’d love to hear your thoughts, as I reckon these could be
some interesting answers. – Yeah.
– To this question. Alright, we’re gonna
head over to Japan now. We’ve reached near the
Saitama Criterium over there and Geraint Thomas didn’t win partly because he did pull his
weight in the breakaway. But Alejandro Valverde was very canny to takes the win over there. Anyway, Jon Cannings
was over on the ground. He spotted some pretty cool new tech. – Well, guys, I don’t
know if you know this but I’m in Japan this week
and at the Saitama Criterium. Lots here, I’ve just managed
to actually see this. Looks to be a 12-speed
prototype groupset from SRAM. So we’ve got a different style design of the rear derailleurs, as you can see, it’s covered up here with
a little bit of black tape. The cassette, that’s 10-28. That’s right, a 10-tooth sprocket. Look at the chain as well. It’s actually got flat outer edges on it, so it’s similar to the that
what you’d find on a BMX bike or something like that where
they go grinding on rails, I understand. Chain set, though, look at that. Total, utter redesign, and get this, a 50-tooth and a 37-tooth
chainring because, of course, if you got a 10-tooth
sprocket in the rear, you don’t need a big 53 plate
to play with anymore, do you? A 50 will be absolutely spot on. That’s looks to be a
new quad parameter too. Yup, spotted it here first. (upbeat electronic music) – It’s time now for Weekly Inspiration, where you send in your
inspirational bike photos for a chance to win 50, 75
or 100 pounds in vouchers from our friends over at Wiggle. How do you win? Well, Dan and I decide. – Yeah, we’re like the
experts here, aren’t we? – Yeah, we are, yeah. – It’s hard to get a big take or not. To enter, all you need to do is upload your inspirational photos
using our uploader, a link to which is in
the description below, or head over to Instagram and use the hashtag #gcninspiration. And without further ado, we can get on with the third place person
from this week, Sam Matysen. 50 pounds on its way
to you for this photo. Long weekend equals hills. And that is over in Pest in Hungary. – [Simon] I absolutely love that, don’t– – [Daniel] Well, I love
it too and I was wondering whether it’s because we both come from a mountain bike background. It’s kind of reminiscent of,
t’s like road single track, isn’t it, through the trees? – [Simon] Road mountain
biking a little bit. I wonder whether it’s
down to tree bathing. – [Daniel] What’s that? – Apparently you can
actually monitor genuine kind of hormonal responses, relaxation
when you’re among trees. – I like bathing trees. – Well, there you go. You have to be going really
slowly to tree bathe, so certainly you can’t
do it on a bike, but. – But I can. – Well, yeah, I was gonna say maybe, actually, you can these days. – Right.
– Right, second place, we’ve got Ben who sent this
in from his week long training camp with his mates from
the Balmoral Triathlon Club, and it’s in New South
Wales, Snowy Mountains. – [Daniel] Right, but not
a bar extension in sight. – [Simon] No, and I think
they’re wearing socks there. – [Daniel] Yeah, lots of socks
in sight, on the other hand. And all of them upright side. Brilliant, well, there’s a
great training camp there. – [Simon] No, jokes aside, that is actually a very cool shot. – Really nice.
– Gotta love a group ride, and in particular when
it starts lining out and you’re motoring. – Yes, that’s great.
– Well, 75 pounds on its way to you, Ben. I wonder if you’ll split
it with that group. One, two, three, four,
five, six, seven, eight. No, I wouldn’t. – (laughs) Yes, less
than seven pounds each. Maybe save 20 for yourself
and divide the rest. We’ll let you decide. And the winner this week, though, is Alistair from Soelden in Austria. Take a look at this. – Wow!
– That is cool, isn’t it? It’s a long climb to a sign
that says it’s the highest paved road in Europe and a
quick Google search revealed that it’s only the second
highest, unfortunately. – [Simon] Ah ha, we’ll it’s
still inspiring, it is. – [Daniel] To us, it still
looks beautiful, yeah. – Yeah, and probably that’s
under snow these days, isn’t it? So we’ll have to wait
maybe until June next year to go and ride it, but still,
that’s absolutely brilliant. Alright, so there you go, there is your top three for this week, 50, 75 and 100 pound Wiggle vouchers on their way to you. And as Dan said at the top, if you would like to
enter, it’s very simple. The link to the uploader
is in the description and, of course, there is Instagram with hashtag #gcninspiration. (upbeat trumpet music) (bass drum vibrating) – It’s now time for Cycling Shorts. – We’re going to start our
Cycling Shorts with news of golf. Now as cyclists, we are all too familiar with the big helmet debate, why you should have to wear one, should you have to wear
one in the first place? Or indeed why you shouldn’t
have to wear a helmet. Well, it seems that now
golfers might be faced with those very same questions. – That’s right, because statistics are catching up with them too. Turns out that golf might
actually be a risky sport. Yup, according to GolfMagic, which is actually a
website believe it or not, there is a risk of injury to
1.8 for every 1,000 players. Comparison to Rugby, long being considered a
dangerous sports, was only 1.5. – Unfortunately, though, cycling
eclipses the both of those. It’s more dangerous at 2.1. – Ooh.
– Although it doesn’t top the charts. Weirdly basketball seems to
have the highest injury rate, so perhaps it’s not our
perception that needs working on, but rather their mathematics. – (chuckles) Yeah, I think so. Yeah, anyway, no matter what is said, cycling’s been considered the new golf. And maybe now golf is the new cycling. – Well, it could be. It could spice up your
commuting in to work, couldn’t it, if you walk to work. (Daniel imitates whip cutting through air) Yeah, I like that. And remember that is statistically as dangerous as commuting by bike. Interestingly, at the very same time, Bicycle Network in Australia have called for their compulsory helmet
laws to be revisited, and that is not just from
those people who want more personal freedom and personal choice, but also because
apparently those compulsory helmet laws have led to
a reduction in the number of cyclists over there. – Yeah, now predictably
there was fairly swift and damning rebuttal from safety campaigns and researchers, but I tell you what, Dan, this debate feels like
it’s so polarized now, I don’t really know what to think anymore, like I’m just sitting on the fence. – There ain’t wrong with
sitting on the fence. Just make sure you wear a
helmet once you’re up there. – [Simon] That will do. Cycling Industry News has been reporting on three possibly very
interesting new e-bikes from big automotive manufacturers. Yeah, that’s right. First one is from General
Motors who are actually announced a crowdsourcing campaign to try and name their two new bike offerings. None of which of them is to actually look like my cup of tea particularly. – Hmm, more so Ducati with their MIG-RR. – Yes.
– That one is apparently going to be launched later on this month at the biggest motorcycle
trade show, the EICMA? – Catchily named, yup. – Yes, it is catchily named. So much so I couldn’t
really remember what it was. And also Elon Musk has even suggested that Tesla might get on the e-bike act. – Yeah, now I would take what
he says with a pinch of salt, but all three of these
suggest quite good news to me because if big car and
motorbike manufacturers feel that it’s somehow worth their
while to start making e-bikes, and proper e-bikes, not
just kind of concept things, then maybe actually that’s suggesting that they’re a little bit concerned that people are gonna be buying
less cars, less motorbikes, and transport is gonna
be all about e-bikes. – Good news there. Think you need to wear a
helmet with one, though? That’s the big question. – Oh, Dan.
– You still sitting on the fence? – No, I think I would definitely wear a helmet on an e-bike. But I wear a helmet all the time anyway, but anyway that’s beside the point. – Oh, we got loads of comments now. Right, let’s move away from that and onto professional bike racing. The season’s almost come to a close, there’s one more criterium over in China. Don’t know who will win that one. Anyway, all eyes are
starting to go into 2019 now. Last week it was the Tour
de France route announcement and this week it was the Giro d’Italia. – That’s right, and as Dan had posted on yesterday’s Racing
News Show, it’s brutal! No more namby pamby, 60
kilometer long mountain stages, this is proper bike racing. How about 230 kilometers with
5,700 meters of climbing, including the Gavia which tops out at over 2,600 meters above sea level. And the Mortirolo on the steep side. – Man, that is brutal, isn’t it? High stage 16, here’s the queen stage, but there’s a whole host
of horrendous looking mountain stages that are both
long and incredibly tough. And even the three timed tours, in fact, have their fair share of climbers, so they don’t look like they’re going to hinder the climbers in the race. – No, oh man, I can’t wait for that. How long is it until they start? – It’s 187 days until the
start of the Giro d’Italia. – That sounds like, what’s
that, like six months. – Six months (speaking faintly)– – Well, at least we got
the Classics before then. – Yes, we have.
– That and Su-al, oh yes, it’s not long now
until it all kicks off, is it? (power drill whirring) – It is time for Hack / Bodge of the Week and a reminder of how to
put your photos into us with your hack and bodges
at #gcnhack on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or
upload them using our uploader, which to remind you is in the
description below this video. And cracking on with things this week to start with we have this from Joseph. – [Simon] Alright? – [Daniel] Well, I guess
you could ride naked, couldn’t you, with a shammy on the saddle. – [Simon] Why is there a
shammy on the saddle there? – [Daniel] This sort of
makes sense, doesn’t it? I probably won’t be using it on my bike, but nevertheless, it is quite comfortable. – [Simon] That could be one
instance where you would want underwear between your
buttocks and the saddle, but anyway, there we go. Thanks for sending that one in. Now this one from Colin Turner. Said he saw this in the
classified ad in Taiwan yesterday. Is that triathlon bars
made with my car now? – [Daniel] I don’t know. I mean, he’s managed to
bend it around by himself by the looks of it without
the use of any kind of heat. – [Simon] Yeah, triathlon
legal, though, so that’s good. Drafting triathlon, since
little stubby extension there. – [Daniel] It would work
just as well as anything you’d buy in the shops, doesn’t it? – [Simon] Well, yeah, and I
suppose you’d think if they snap on you then there’s marginally less risk than it being the rest of
your handlebar that snapped, but anyway. – [Daniel] Then if they do snap, then comes my through place. – Still a bodge.
(spring vibrating) Yeah, yeah, no, definitely not one to try. Much like this one, the
interesting bike barrow combination sent in by Adam Barker. – [Daniel] Wow, you could
fit quite a lot in there, couldn’t you? – [Simon] I mean, that has
gotta be a proper thing now, doesn’t it, like a hack, is it? – [Daniel] So might well be
used for somebody’s actual work, I’m seeing it. – In which case, I think
you should be applauded because that effectively
takes the place of, well, those motorized wheel
barrows that you get in Italy. You know the ones? – No.
– No. Maybe you should just please notice one. – Well, I’m gonna say hack
’cause I think that somebody uses that for their work, as I said. Moving on, we have got
this from Louie Cupino. DIY aero bottle holder. – [Simon] I see, he’s just
placed his bottle there on the front of the bar extensions which he’s bought rather than made. – [Daniel] I think there’s
a bottle case there, mate. – [Simon] Oh, there is, sir. And it’s not the most
aero position, is it? – [Daniel] This was a
hard to hold generic bar if there’s a bottle in
the middle, isn’t it? – [Simon] I see, good point. Why would you stick the bottle there? – [Daniel] Reason– – [Simon] Yeah, but put it on the saddle, that’s where all triathletes
have it, isn’t it? – Well, they have two under
the saddle, don’t they? You gotta remember that from trafel-via last year.
– Yeah, millions. Loads, and loads, and loads– – What we can learn from triathletes. Show a video of that one. – Also, there’s no top tube bag on there, so I’m wondering whether that’s actually been well thought out at
all for a triathlon bike. Anyway, right, we’ll
finish off with, well, some pretty exciting news,
actually, for us Dan. So, if you watched last week’s show, you’ll remember the Tron bike that Hannah had created for Halloween. Anyway, we said we wouldn’t
mind riding a Tron bike and she’s very kindly
offered to make us some. – [Daniel] Really? – Yeah, so next year,
Hannah, we’re looking forward to our DIY Tron kits coming
through the post in time to kid us up for Halloween,
thank you very much. – Happy days, thank you very much. (upbeat electronic music) Next up it’s the Caption Competition. Last week Si and James
showed you this photo from the Tour de France
presentation that put Geraint Thomas next to Chris Froome
and Julian Alaphilippe. And we do have one– – [Simon] Where’s John Travolta, mate? Is it?
– Yeah, yeah. What’s Chris doing there? – [Simon] I know the real
John Travolta, not Chris. – Anyway, we do have a winner of the GCN CamelBak water bottle. – And can I just say, this is one of my favorite
captions for months, this is genius, sent in by Info Alplinks, that’s a strange name, and anyway, caption, Froomey, can you stop
looking at your powermeter, it’s the off season. (rimshot crashing) Maybe his name is Mike ’cause
he’s added that on the end. – (laughing) Well,
that’s a good guess, Si. Maybe it is Mike. Well done to you, Mike. Now send us a Facebook
message with your address and we’ll send this out to you. Now here is this week’s photo, comes from Saitama Criterium
and it looks quite cold if you mind Alejandro
Valverde’s outfit there. – [Simon] All star cast there, isn’t it? Look at that, Valverde, Geraint Thomas, Marcel Kittel, and indeed Vincenzo Nibali. – Yes, I’ll just get you started. Geraint, I know it’s the off season but I think maybe you should start looking at your pal-me through the day. – Ho ho, shots fired.
– Catty. – Meow, right, anyway, Dan’s set the tone. Hopefully you can lift it from there to be able to shout at
winning a GCN water bottle. We will pick a winner
just for next week’s show. So there we go, get stuck in. – It’s easy for you to say. I’ve been catching up on
your many great comments after a week’s holiday this morning. I’ve picked my favorite– – How was Bologna, by the way? – It was rude. I’m going to pay for quite a lot of beers ’cause you have to do lot
of kilometers actually. – Did you? – Anyway, my favorite are as follows, underneath last week’s
show, this from CnE. Who cares what people wear on a bike. Wear a thong with a chef’s hat if that’s what you want to do. Too right. – Well, I don’t know actually. I think if someone turned up
on the group ride wearing that, I’d probably wouldn’t want
to ride with them that much. – And you stood up when they were about the helmet thing you would do. – No, exactly, yeah, good point. Under how do you make carbon fiber frames, we actually make a video, if you haven’t checked that one out, where Ollie went over to
see how Look do things. Carl Forde said, referring to Ollie going from the factory all the
way back to France, he said, yeah, that is a long run,
Ollie, but you don’t hear the camera guy complaining about having to get there first to
set up the video gear. Oh, I see, the audio guy muted that part. We actually got a little bit
of behind the scenes info. They all ran together and
Ollie had to step outside with a makeup artist just
to kind of touch things back up again before they
carried on with the filming. See, that was how it was done.
– Well explained, sir. And finally, underneath your
CycleFest video with Chris, this from Robb Chastain, I, too, did happen to notice
that the GCN presenters were suffering terribly
on their indoor bicycles as I munched popcorn and sipped coffee. – [Simon] Yeah, James was really suffering as well then with yoga,
just to make a point. – I think it’s the same thing, as I was sipping on free
beer in Bologna, Si, last week as I watched your video. Alright, coming up on the
channel this week on Wednesday, gravel bike suspension. – Yes.
– It’s a thing, isn’t it? Si went to Iceland and visited Lauf and went behind the scenes with them. On Thursday we have six hacks
for the perfect bike fit, and make sure you keep your
eye on GCN Tech that day too because there’s a brand new
product launch, very exciting, have my friends over at Continental. – That’s right.
– Friday, as ever, is Ask GCN Anything. – Yeah, on Saturday, brace yourselves, because we built ourselves a hyper bike. Oh, yeah, what happens when
you unshackle yourselves from the UCI rules, you get one of these, so make sure you stay tuned to that. – Unfortunately, we haven’t
got a hyper presenter, have we? – No, no. – Just standard ones, slightly
below standard, I think. – (laughing) Easy. Right, on Sunday, you’ve been
asking for it, we’ve done it. We’re gonna tell you the difference between a gravel bike
and a cyclocross bike. Ollie and I took that one over in Italy and we’ve even invented a new sport, so make sure you check that one out. – Slightly below average apart from Emma, should I point out, just
in case I get another text through after the show comes out. – (laughs) And Monday, of
course, is the Racing News Show and indeed it’s the GCN Show 305 now. – What a weird ending, we’ll leave it. (upbeat rock music) – Before we get on to Extreme Corner, a little shout out to the GCN Shop because if you are being organized enough to get Christmas presents in early, we got some early bird offers for you. Yes, that’s right, make
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or a red sweatshirt. – Now that’s an idea
for Christmas, isn’t it? You buy yourself a sweatshirt and you give someone else the free beanie. (whip cutting through air) – Good idea.
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those offers and there’s that link in the description below. – Yeah, right there, Dan. What about Extreme Corner. This week is pretty extreme because a chap-i-cal David Weiss, went and taught himself
how to do a back flip straight onto dirt. – Is that wise? (slow eclectic music) – Probably the heaviest crash
to ever happen on this jump. (group cheering) – [Man] Oh! – Wow, fair play. – I’ll tell you what, it
doesn’t matter how many times you practice doing a back
flip into that foam pit, it must be terrifying
the first time you go to do it outside, isn’t it? – We should find out, mate. We should make James do it.
– I’ll do it in the foam pit, I’m not, yeah, alright, just take him. – Yeah, he’s gonna own up. – It’s great having guinea
pigs these days, isn’t it? – [Simon And Daniel] Crash test dummies. – Yeah, cheers, James, off you go. – Alright, on that note, Dan,
we should probably leave it there for this week, shouldn’t we? – That is all for this week’s show. We’ll be back at the same time next week. – Yeah, if you haven’t seen Ollie’s video from the Look factory about
how make a carbon fiber bike, do make sure you check it out. It is a brilliant watch. (electronic screeching) (heavy metal pounding)