Uber E-Bikes + Derestricted EMTB Races | EMBN Show Ep.35

Uber E-Bikes + Derestricted EMTB Races | EMBN Show Ep.35


– Hello, and welcome to the EMBN show here from the Adriatic Coast in Croatia. Well, the clouds are slowly lifting because we have just been, in what can only be described, as the craziest electrical
storm that I’ve ever been in. The sky was totally on fire. And storm it certainly is gonna be because we are here with Specialized Bikes and over the next few weeks there’s gonna be some massive news from those guys. Just another part of the chapter of the emountain bike story. On tonight’s show, we’ve
got some custom-made ebikes and we’ll be looking at what the future emountain
bike athletes might look like. But before that, back to
you guys in the studio with the latest news. (dramatic music) – So the global taxi service, Uber, is actually going to be
switching from cars to ebikes, which is pretty cool, actually, isn’t it? – That’s really good, yeah. – So what they’re planning to do is to reduce congestion and pollution is that for inner city commutes, rather than actually
calling yourself a car is to call yourself an ebike
so you can get around town. You’re not gonna be held up in traffic. And Uber basically said that even though they’re not gonna financially profit
a great deal from this, it’s a great way to
contribute to the environment and help with pollution, which is awesome. And it’s great for
people like us, isn’t it? – Yeah, I just love, I commute
to the office here every day. I park out of town and it
used to take me 15, 20 minutes to get in through the traffic but now you park up, stop
at this massive hill. So I’ve obviously got the
ebike in there, cruise down. I actually do a big wheelie on the way to work every morning just
to get the adrenalin goin’ and it is flat out the whole way. But yeah, it’s really good. And then on the way home, I’m just sailin’ past these cars. It takes me about eight minute to get, you know, I’m saving probably
20 minutes on my commute. And yeah, just a really good way for me to wake up before
coming into the office and get things goin’. So yeah, I love commuting on my ebike and perfect tool for
getting around the cities. Probably just as fast as a moped, ya know, similar sort of speed too. And it’s clean, doing good
things for the environment. So yeah, can’t see what
isn’t to like about it. – I think it’s great and I
think other kind of services should start using ebikes. – Definitely. – Could you imagine a
mountain rescue ebike service? – (laughs) Snap your (mumbles)
off in the middle of nowhere. – Yeah, you’re out in
the middle of nowhere. You’re on a massive
expedition and you ebike or just dies, something happens. And then you can just
call an ebike to come up and come get you. – Start working on that,
Uber, we want to see that. – Yeah, we do. (laughing) – Rotwild have also launched
a new 120 mil travel bike. It’s got 648 wire r battery
on it, 120 mil travel. Looks like a really good bike. It also comes with bros S motor on it. So really an efficient
motor on that, zero drag. Got a cooler, air cooler, cover on it so it actually pulls air into
it as you’re riding along. Looks perfect for all those epic rides. It’s not a big travel trail bike but 120 mil be perfect
for you out on the trail. So really nice looking bike there. – But it is as nice as the new Rocky Mountain
Altitude Powerplay which has just been
launched in new colorway. – Those look good. – It does look really, really nice. This is quite an aggressive
150 mil trail bike with such a huge batteries. Rocky Mountain’s own battery, I believe. – Yeah, battery and motor as well, yes. A really good package on that. So the rally edition
is really nice colors. Really stand out, last year’s which is sort of black
and yellows I remember. But this one does look really good so definitely worth checking out– – Check it out. – When you radar if you’re
after a new high-end ebike. There’s something we talked
about a lot on the show is actual ebike racing. I think is really exciting, I can’t wait to see what’s
possible on these bikes. I see a lot of the big events is (mumbles) at an ebike categories. You
seen a lot of that, Jess? – Yeah, I have actually. Trans-pyreneese have opened
up an emountain bike category, which is a multi stage
day mountain bike race. And then Roc d’Azur which is huge, Passport to Saley. – [Man] (mumbles). – Magravlanche cycling. Massive annual mountain bike events are introduced in ebike categories, which I thinks really exciting. – Definitely, and it’s
growing yeah, huge in the UK as well back here at home. The good thing that
I’ve seen is WOR events have actually added a modified ebike class to all their events so
you’ve got standard ebike. Then you’ve got modified ebike. So obviously modified ebike, you can go to the moon
with whatever greats, you can increase the power.
You know, it’s up to you. As long as you’ve got that
standard kind of motor in the bike, we’re not talking about strapping a massive engine in and going flat out with the throttle. Still gotta be pedal assist but you can allow all
those deer restrictions. So it’s gonna be–
– That’s quite cool. – Quite exciting I think, yeah. It’s gonna be really good spectacle. – It opens up so many
possibilities, doesn’t it? For those with ebikes and for those who like to tinker around with
restrictions on them. I think that’s really cool. – So another race series in the UK again is the Pedalhounds series. They’ve added ebike category, which has always been
a big thing for them. But this year, they’ve
actually split into twos so you’ve got 18 to 39 and then 40 plus. So it’s gonna give those guys, you know, the older guys a bit of a
break against the young guns. – Now over the past 12 months, we’ve seen a lot of
professional mountain bikers turn to ebiking. Whether it just be for some fun or for part of their training. People such as the Abslong brothers, former cross country world
champion, Jose Hameda of Spain. And then you have people such
as freerider, Sam Pilgrim, turned ebike and world cup
(mumbles) Brandon Faircliff. And if you think about it,
you’ve got cross country and downhill races. They’re actually quite
different physically in terms of their training
and how they look. So a couple weeks ago I bumped
into a former atherton coach, Alan Milway, just to chat about what the future emountain
bike athletes might look like. (electronic music) On this week’s in-depth, we’re
joined by coach Alan Milway. Now Alan has trained the
likes of G and Rach Lasivan, (mumbles), Danny Heart. Now Alan actually seems to
be spending a lot of time on ebikes lately, and the question, Alan,
is what might the physique of an ebiker look like in the future? – That’s putting me on the spot, isn’t it? – (laughs) Well, think of
it, think of it, right? Now emountain biking is what 34 years old. Now today, in the beginning
there was a mountain bike. And today we have cross country riders who are generally very light, very svelt. They’re dressed specifically. Then you have a downhill
racer, slightly heavier. I mean tell me if I’m wrong. They obviously dress differently. Different sort of muscles
and stuff like that. And then you have an Enduro rider. People such as Sam Hill and Jared Graves. You can see they’ve definitely
changed their physique from when they were downhill
racers and four cross races, into what is now a
professional Enduro sport. So the question is what
might an ebiker look like in the future? – I’d say probably it’d be a
cross between an Enduro rider and a downhill rider. I think that would probably be the end of the spectrum I’d imagine. With these bikes, the interesting thing is that you’re able to
set a high average speed than obviously you would without a motor. So there is some aerodynamics
that come into that. So you could argue that you don’t want to be too big a frontelier
but they are a lot heavier so you need the upper body control. – So you’re gonna have a big
upper body workout, right? Manhandling those bikes
around the big down sections. – Yeah, the inertia of these bikes is such that they, it’s
like riding a downhill bike, isn’t it? Very quickly. – So listen, over the next few months, we’re gonna be covering some
fitness and ebike videos in depth with Alan Milway. So be sure to tune into those videos. Thanks, Alan, thanks for joining us. – Pleasure, really enjoyed
it, really enjoyed it. – Yeah, it’s certainly
gonna be interesting to see how the evolution
of emountain biking goes in terms of athletes
over the next few years. Certainly if racing
comes into the picture. Now a couple weeks ago we
bumped into South Walian, Dan Dark. Now he rides with a bunch of
mates in the South Wales area and apparently 15 out of the 30 riders are now on ebikes. And they still go out
for those mixed rides. Now what Dan’s done is taken his specialized
trolly designed Kenevo and he’s customized it. He’s put some triple clamp forks in it. So I went down to visit him
and see what the deal was. This specialized Kenevo 180 mil travel custom built for Dan Dark
down here at Legg Lakes Bikes in Newport South Wales. It is simply incredible. I mean just look at it. It looks awesome. Right, let’s have a look
at the specification on this bike that Legg
Lakes have built for Dan. Now I have to point out that he actually bought the trolley design, custom trolley design paint job bike and Legg Lakes transferred
all the new parts that Dan chose onto make
this a custom Kenevo bike. So starting off up front we’ve got a wrensel bar and stem setter. 800 milawide, 30 mil rise
and a 35 mil width bar on this bike. Hope discs, Hope V4 discs. 200 mil front and rear
and check out those discs. They’re the V4 Venta Discs,
they’re super money those. I’ve no doubt that they’re gonna give Dan that added bite when it comes
to the downhill sections. Now as you can see, the
suspension on this bike is really something special. Up front a Fox Factory 49 fork, which is three nine inch
wheel specific fork, which a lot of the World Cup
Downhill race have been using. Now this fork is gonna make
this bike even more capable than it already is. Like I said, it’s 180
mil travel at the rear. Now it’s 200 mil up front as well which means it’s gonna have
serious big hittin’ capability on those downhill sections. What they’ve done is they’ve put the 29
inch wheel specific fork in the bike because it then means that Dan can ride at 2.8 inch tire in
the front of this bike as well. Some of the finer detail on the bike is a Fox transfer seat post. And also, as you can see, there is a Fox Float X2 damper in there, and from what I hear from Leggs Lakes, Fox had to custom make that damp because there wasn’t one
specifically available for this bike. So I think there’s a spacer in there to make the bike bang on 180 mil travel. When it comes to the geometry, how much does the 49
fork affect the geometry? Well, not by that much. Bottom bracket on this bike comes in at about 350 millimeters so it’s not too far off
what this bike is as stock. But look at it, specialized
trolley design Kenevo. I mean it doesn’t get much
better than this, right? – Just time for Climb of the Week. What we got, Jess? – We have got a video submitted by David who’s been riding in Squamish, Canada. And this is superb. It looks absolutely beautiful. – [Man] Actually I recognize
this spot from the bike vault. Didn’t this guy send us a photo? – [Jess] Yeah, actually,
I do recognize it. – He’s on a video now but yeah, good work. It does look amazing, ya know. North shore, big mountain,
definitely we wanna turn right on that trail. Look at the size of that drop the side. – Oh my God, I know. – Looks like it’s filmed from a drone or maybe he’s got a really
tall friend or a big ladder or something. (laughing) I don’t know but
yeah, amazing, good shot. – Really nice work, David. – Yeah, keep sending these
Climb of the Weeks in. We got a new upload
that’s really easy to use. Just make sure you use that
service, get those videos in and we’ll definitely
feature them on the show. – We’ve had tons of
comments left on the videos over the past week so we’ve
selected a few of our favorites that we want to talk about today. And the first one is from Dave who said, “I got called a cheat “by a guy riding his analog mountain bike “whilst out riding a few days ago. “I stopped and tried to explain
that he was an analog rider “in a digital world.” I like that, that’s good. – That is good. – “He did see the funny side
of it and when I let him “have a go on my emountain
bike, he was all smiles.” I like that. – Been there 100 times myself. Those guys that call you cheat and all the rest of it been called. Each time I’ve gotten on
the bike and they’re like, whoa, this guy literally yesterday, I let have a go on my bike and
he was going back to buy one. – Really? – Yeah, he was like– – That’s amazing. – You (bleeps), I’m gonna
have to talk to the misses and get one of these. (laughing) Yeah, definitely happens. – I like that. It’s good because I found
that a lot of people who don’t ride ebikes and haven’t got very
much experience with them they do convert a little bit. A little bit. If not a lot. – You can’t not have a good time on it. – Oh, exactly. So I think that’s great. – Another cool comment I saw was a recent Steve Geel
interview that I did. It’s from Superspecky4eyes. He says, “I actually
enjoy the satisfaction “and challenge of making my
way up a long tough climb “or through a tricky tech
section under my own steam. “I think I’d be slightly robbin myself “of that with an e-bike. “Yes, it may be quicker but quicker riding “isn’t always better riding. “Also, a lot of these
videos claim you can get “in a lot more riding on an
ebike versus a regular bike “but I’d like to see
some actual data on that. “I’m sure you can get more riding in, “but I can’t see myself
doing back to back loops “of my local trail very often for fear “of it becoming repetitive.” I think he’s kind of
little bit missing out on the point there. – Yeah, I mean I totally
get the first part about the climbing and having to put in all your effort into it and it’s like powered by
you without any assist. And that part I can fully appreciate. – I think yeah, but on
a lot of those bikes you’ve got the ability to
obviously switch down that power. Some of the ones you can
connect to on your phone, you can go to 1%, 2%, 3% all
the way up to 100% assist. So if you wanted to ride that, you could actually make
it harder for yourself. ‘Cause obviously that
bike weighs 25 kilos. With all that stuff on, you’re
actually making it harder for yourself, but if you
wanted to fly through there at 10 mile an hour to the two you could just turn the
assistance up, press that button. – That’s true. – And it just opens up, you
know, you’ve got a power on top. It’s like driving a fast car on the road. You can just use that
power when you need it. And the thing about
riding back to back loops of his local trails, that’s not going. – But you wouldn’t do that on an ebike. – Yeah, you go from here
to here to here to here. You don’t just ride the
same loop round and round. – I wouldn’t even want to
ride my local trail loop back to back on my regular bike. – No, but ebike, it’s
definitely gettin’ out there, exploring. Yeah, (mumbles) but it’s
literally the best tool for getting out there and
making more and more miles. Riding more trails just far more easily. Definitely a good tool. – So the next one is from Kona72. Now this is in reference to
what Steve said last week on the show about hardtails. – Big level hardtails. – (laughs) Now Kona72 says, “I like this show a lot and I
enjoy the different topics.” Thank you. “But to turn around and
say do not buy a hardtail, “I’ve riden for over 40
years and have used hardtails “as well as full sussed. “Now full sussed is
good, don’t get me wrong, “but there are some capable
ebike hardtails out there “which can ride far more
than just the fire road. “Sounds to me like someone needs educating “on how to ride a hardtail.” – Yeah, (mumbles) might
need some coachin’ there by the sound of it. – I think this is
definitely a Steve question but what are your views
on ebike hardtails? – Yeah, you know I can
see they’re good price and very good entry to the sport of emdb. They’re a lot cheaper than
the full suss options. But definitely yeah, you can ride them on more than a fire road. But there is a big leap
forward in rider comfort and speed, well not necessarily speed but just more rider comfort and actually enjoying the ride. You know, I like hardtails but
they are really pretty brutal when you start giving
them a hammering off-road. If I had the choice of full
suspension or a hardtail, 100% I would take that full suspension. – I guess having all that
weight in the bottom bracket around that area as well, without having any– – Unsuspended weight, yeah. You do notice that weight low down. It’s different styles of riding. Steve’s quite an aggressive rider, I’m quite an aggressive rider. But as I say, they’re
more than capable off-road but if you want to step it up a notch, hit that thread hard. – I think we should actually have to look into this a little further maybe. – Yeah, maybe get Steve to do
a hardtail versus full suss. – We’ll put Steve on the hardtail. – Yeah, do some time runs. So yeah, watch your space for that one. – Definitely (laughs). – Time for where in the world. What have you got then, Jess? – We have Melbourne, Australia, that’s where we are this week. And Alex. Now Alex originally submitted some photos to the bike vault but I’ve
actually had to pull them out because I think there’s a
brilliant story behind them. I absolutely love it. So Alex, he’s out riding
with his best friend, both childhood BMXers. And they recently just
bought themselves a couple of Merida E160 mountain bikes. Now these are brilliant. They look like they’re in
a kangaroo reserve or– – [Man] Looks like it. – [Jess] There’s kangaroos
everywhere which are fantastic. And what makes me laugh the most is a photo of these two
riders, Alex and his friend, and they have their riding shirts on with the homemade EMBN
logos stuck on the front. – [Man] That’s amazing, yeah, that’s cool. – And I think that is wicked. But guys, you do know
we have a shop right? You can buy them (laughs). But they look so happy out on their ride. – It’s cool, Australia,
all these kangaroos. That’s what it’s about, getting out there. Friends, out there to go explore. Look at that view is amazing. – I love the fact they’re
childhood friends. They used to ride BMXs and
now however many years on, they’re still out together riding bikes. – Super special. Yeah, that’s what it’s about. – Pretty cool. – So good. – And now it’s time for my
favorite part of the show, it’s the Bike Vault. – I can’t wait, let’s
have a look, load it up. – So first up we’ve got Kevin
who’s on his giant ebike. He’s in South Wales and says he went on an after work spin up the hills in his backyard. – The good thing about these ebikes, straight out after work,
you might have an hour. You might have a half an
hour but getting out there, looking like he’s yeah, right
high up on the mountain. Looking good, look at that backdrop. Looking to get straight
in with a super nice. (siren beeping) What was on next? – Next up we have her with
a Merida E160 in Austria. Oh no, South African
on vacation in Austria. Full bike in Salsburg. – Nice, nice Merida. That backdrop again. – Stunning isn’t it. It looks like a watercolor painting. But the bike, the bike. – The bike’s good, the backdrop’s good. Another super nice. (siren beeping) Too kind. – Very kind day. – Uh oh, these are some
nice submissions this week. What’s this you got, Jackapoo. Jackapoo. Sent in his high bike
extra mountain seven, Bergamo, Italy. Never stopped exploring
since he got his ebike. It’s all about exploring
lakes, mountains and trails. Accessing terrain that would
never been possible to reach without a motor. The stoke is real. – I can tell that. You can see that. – Genuine post, look
at that backdrop again. – That’s beautiful. I really like that bike. – Does look good, doesn’t it? – I really quite like those
colors. Really really nice. – In tube high bike as well. Look good. – Are we being too generous this week? – I don’t know. Super nice, three in a row. Gotta be a record. (siren beeping) Trek Powerfly. – Now this is from Thomas
who is in, I’m so sorry, Esbjerk in Denmark. – Esbjerk in Denmark, yeah. – Enjoying the sunset on a
new bike park in Esbjerk. Oh new bike park. – Does look good, new bike park as well. Um, not particularly
loving the angle of it. – No, it looks a bit awkward and precariously perched on that. – I’d be worried the bars
are gonna turn around and fall over the back of that log. – Yeah, but the bike is really nice. It’s nice. – Just a nice. Got next. We’ve got this from Weldon. – Oh, this one! This is the one I was telling you about. – Fold in ebike that you can transport in the back of a Suzuki hatchback. Oh my God, it’s got like Mack wheels. – So it’s actually got
front and rear suspension. – Isn’t there a picture next one as well. – This is it being folded
into the back of a car. – It looks like one of those
Rally Wildcats back in the day. Do you remember those? Might be before your time. It used to be Rally made
a bike just like this, used to make noises on the
(mumbles), press the computer. – I’d love to know how it rides. – Look at it, a folding ebike. That could be quite good, ya know? ‘Cause people say about the weight trying to lift them up on
the racks and roofs of cars. So if you did have one
that folded in half. Not my cup of tea but I
could see the attraction. – That’s the thing does
it get a super nice because it’s a bit different? – Yeah, I’m gonna give it a
super nice. Good work, nice one. – I think we’re gonna have
to look at folding ebikes on the show. – You can ride with it. – Yeah, why not? So the next one is from Calum, specialized Hobo Levo hardtail 29er. This is up in Scotland. And he says, “Hi guys. “This is my partner’s bike
which she absolutely loves. “We’re heading to Highland
Wildcat Trails this weekend “but this is a quick outing
with the future trail dog, “Bella, to the beach.” – Wow, nice color. Does look a nice bike. – It’s got a doggo in it. Ah, he’s so cute! – I’ve yet to ride my ebike on the beach. That does actually look
pretty prime for it. – It does look, I do like that bike. – Trail dog, nice color, nice backdrop. – I’m gonna go super nice. – Super nice. (siren beeping) – So the next one is from Ron. – Ron, we’ve got all be a wild FS. He’s in Colorado, epic
ride up Mount Herman Coop. Nice backdrop, a little bit dark. A bit underexposed, do you think? – Yeah, I think the bike needs
to be a little bit more– – In the light. – In the light and yeah, it’s kinda hard to make out
any real detail on that. Interesting shape. – Nice. – Nice, yeah it’s nice. – Where we going next? – Yes, this is from Andri with his 2018 Cube new trail 500 hybrid. Taken in Iceland where
he’s riding with friends at the cannot pronounce it bike park. – Does look good. Fat bike. – Look at that bike though,
look at those tires. – Does look good. – Look at the mud, it looks like it. – I really wanna try an e-fat bike. I don’t know about hardtail
but a hobo do a ebike fat bike full suspension and that, I think, I could imagine what you could climb up. It would be incredible. You know with those tires, super low. But I think it does look a lot of fun. – Do you think we should go to Iceland? – I’d love to go there. But yeah.
– ‘Cause I like that a lot. I think that is wicked. – The trails look good, backdrops good. – Look like he’s having a wicked fun time. – I think that thing
would probably stand up by itself without a stand. – (laughs) Possibly yeah. – Monster truck. Yeah, I’m giving that a super nice. – Yeah, do it. (siren beeping) This one is from Frank. E-stream Evo AM taken in Germany
on his local single trail. – Looks good as well, isn’t it? – Yeah, I quite like that. – Oh, these some good
lookin’ ebikes as well, isn’t that now? I’m just gonna give it nice
I think, it looks good. Nice backdrop, not crazily
high or these pedals on it. – Oh (laughs). – Isn’t that one of your pedals? – Well yeah, I mean, okay. But I do like that a lot. I think the bike is actually really nice. – Yeah, it’s nice. Where we goin’ next? – We’ll go nice. I think that’s it, we’re
out of the bike vault. – Out of the bike vault already. – We’re done. – Really fast. So yeah, good work. As I said, keep sending those entries in. We’ve got that new upload service which is really really easy to do. So make sure to get those entries in and we promise we will
show every single bike. So yeah, keep em comin’. – Thank you. – Also don’t forget to check out the shop. We got loads of new cool stuff and they’ve got t-shirts
like me and Jess are wearing. They’ve got the new blue
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