Should You Upgrade Your MTB? | The Pros & Cons Of Bike Upgrades

Should You Upgrade Your MTB? | The Pros & Cons Of Bike Upgrades


– We often talk about upgrading your bikes here at GMBN, and you
guys quite often ask us what are the best things to upgrade and to put onto your bike. But does it add any
performance to your bike? And is it actually worth it? – Of course it is Doddy. – Really? Well let’s find out shall we. (gravel crunching) – Okay how about this Doddy? If I upgrade all the parts of my bike, if I put a new wheel set, new carbon bars, new grips, change from three bite to one bite, it’s definitely going to
increase the value of my bike. – Not necessarily. It means you’re spending
money on that stuff and you’re putting it on to your bike but all of these things are
going to depreciate and stuff. So you’re not necessarily making your bike worth more money. It might be a better
bike as far as upgrade but you’ve got to factor in, you are still spending money. It’s costing you money. – Well of course afterwards it’s definitely going to
increase the value of my bike because just add that price that I’ve paid for these carbon bars
and put it on the price and get my money back. – It’s not that simple Blake. Think about buying a car or buying a bike outright
in the first place. The minute you wheel it out that showroom, it’s losing money. You see, an item is going to be used. It’s going to depreciate. You’re going to lose money on that stuff. It’s not a bad thing
because you want your bike to work nice and look nice, but don’t think by adding stuff to it that it’s going to add value. – Maybe a little bit? – Potentially but I don’t know. (trap beat) – All right Doddy, what about performance upgrading that’s definitely going
to make you ride harder, faster, be more aggressive, definitely upgrading those parts. It’s going to make you better. – To be honest, the only thing that’s going to make you harder and better as a rider is practice. No amount of things are
going to make you better. Don’t fall into a trap of thinking that you’re going to spend
loads of money on your bike and you’ll be faster or jump higher. That doesn’t happen. You’ve got to watch Blake’s videos and Neil’s videos to do that stuff. But you can technically
make your bike a bit faster or ride a bit lighter. So you could say that’s
a performance upgrade. Lighter tires or tires that roll faster or that are more suitable for your terrain will help you find traction
and roll a bit better and lighter wheels are
definitely an upgrade that can make your bike
feel like it’s going faster and you’ll put less effort
in to get that speed. I would say that light-set wheels can transform a bike. If you’ve got a fairly entry level bike, say anything from 400 quid
maybe up to a thousand pounds, some people might not
deem that as entry level if we just say that bracket. If you put some decent
lightweight wheels on that, that bike will feel like it’s like a two thousand
pound bike straight out. – And I’ve had some people say, I just need a brand new fork. Well potentially, you can
just upgrade that fork that you have on your bike by getting it serviced or changing the internals into that fork. Makes it perform a lot better. – A hundred percent, I completely agree with you Blake. I would advise anyone, instead of just spending money outright, to get your bike serviced. Get it in good condition. That is an upgrade straight-out. – I think that’s the bottom line. – You’re obviously
supporting your bike shop by doing that anyway. Or if you’re able to do it
yourself following our videos that’s great. But don’t fall into a trap of thinking you’re going to need to buy stuff. You don’t necessarily need
that new suspense fork. Like Blake said, if you get it tuned, and you get it serviced, it’s all greased properly
and working correctly, it’s going to feel amazing. – Correct. – Basically yeah. And you could, for example, you could upgrade to a coil. Well it’s not even an upgrade, you could change to a coil
internal or an air internal if it’s the other way around. You can do that on some forks. – Exactly. – And shocks too. (upbeat music) – So you get a new bike and
you want to upgrade this, but over time. So you’re going to be
riding your brand new bike, and then over time you want to think about upgrading parts on your bike. Now, where do you start? – I guess you could probably start, I would say with the consumable parts, things that naturally
wear out as you use them. It could be quite easy to see an XTR derailleur on your mate’s bike and be like, oh I really
want that on my bike. – Yeah. – Don’t just do that. Wait until your existing
derailleur is worn out and then when you replace it, you upgrade that at the same time. Same goes for your chain, your cassette, all those things that wear out. Tires, you don’t necessarily
need to replace them now, although you can get better performance by replacing them. You may as well wait
’til they’re worn out. Get some good use out of them. – Exactly and also talk about tires you could actually get a
little bit of weight out because that bike you’ve bought probably come with any tubes. So maybe convert to being tubeless. – A hundred percent I agree with that. Inner tubes to me is backwards technology. I say to everyone, convert your bike to a tubeless. It’s great ‘cuz you lose
some rotation weight which is great, which means your bike is going
to feel lighter and roll faster and it seals up little
punctures on the go. And that’s a win-win. – You could potentially
do that straight away as soon as you get your bike. But cockpit wise, if you’re not too keen
on the width of the bars, changing the bars actually
is not an upgrade as such but an upgrade to body
position on the bike, feel of the bike. – Yeah. – Can definitely upgrade your bike. – Yeah like Blake said, that
is definitely not an upgrade as such unless you, for example, going to a carbon bar from an aloe bar, it would be an upgrade for example if your aim is to try to
lose weight off the bike, so a carbon bar may be lighter. But it’s not again a performance thing, it’s going to be a preference thing. So don’t confuse those. It will definitely make
your bike feel nicer if that’s what you’re looking for. But it won’t make it better as such. – Over time, the best upgrade ever, what is it Donny? Because I agree with you on this one. Okay well we’ve already covered wheels at the beginning of the video. I think the most significant
thing you can change on any mountain bike, if it hasn’t already got
one to add performance is a dropper post. – Exactly. – I reckon, and I still think we need to make a video on this, you can ride faster on a rigid
bike with the dropper post than you could on a four suspension bike with the saddle fully up. I reckon there’s a video there. – There’s a video there for sure. – I mean you’re a bit out
of control on the rigid bike but getting the saddle out the
way could compensate I think. – Exactly. (trap beat) Color coding, now I’ve seen this a lot out there in bike parks and trail centers. Color coding everything to the, to your valve stems. – Oh yeah. – All of those things like
orange, blue, green, everything. Now I’m a sucker for
this because I love green for obvious reasons, my nuke proof mega is green. I’ve got these grips on there. My vehicle’s green, my clothing’s green, everything. My watch strap. – Blake is bonkers about green to be fair. – That is an upgrade but
it’s a personal upgrade so when it comes to actually
selling that bike at the end someone would probably hate it and you probably won’t sell it. And it won’t add any value. – That’s a good shout actually. Doing sort of the color coding thing is great but it is your personal taste. So maybe be cautious with that if you do want to resell
the bike at some point. Don’t go too crazy. – Yeah maybe keep those old parts and then put them back on if– – I quite like a bit
of color coding though. – Yeah – I don’t like to go too over
the top but, here and there. – Talk about color coding, now you’ve done a significant
change to your bike. – Yeah, there’s one or two
little changes on there. – So the biggest change
is now, is an upgrade and it’s going from air to coil. – But is that an upgrade? – We don’t know. – Right. So I’ve basically on my new it came with a new shock
on there which I love. I’m a big fan, in fact, I’m probably a bigger fan of air shocks than I am of coil shocks. However, a lot of GMBN tech viewers have been asking about
what are the differences. So I’m making a video at the moment and I’ve just changed
the shock on my bike. You could say it’s an upgrade but I don’t think it is. It’s a level, it’s a preference thing. – Yeah. – But now it’s got an orange
spring that looks really cool. And it does match with the colors some of that orange valves. – But it’s a very
expensive route to go down if you were to do that and you end up it’s not the best thing
for that bike depending. – There’s something that
you won’t have seen though. So that’s not an upgrade, but it’s a really interesting thing. I think we’ll make a cool
video and figure it out if it rides better, but there’s an upgrade you didn’t see that is an upgrade. I volted the fork travel, so there’s an internal shaft on the fork you can change basically. It’s a fairly cheap component. I did it myself and I’ve added ten mil to
the travel of that bike. – What? – So it comes with different options it’s compatible for the bikes, some of the models have a 150 fork, some have a 140, and I really like the 150 rode. So I’ve upgraded mine to a 150. – That’s an exciting point there because a lot of viewers do ask, can I put a bigger fork on my bike? Now that could potentially not be an upgrade in itself maybe. – Yeah you could ruin your bike. – You could ruin your bike. – If you’re doing ten or 20 mil, on most bikes you could
probably get away with it but you change some of your angles. So you’ve got to be careful with that because you can actually make things worse rather than better. – Downgrading it. – Oh yeah downgrading, don’t downgrade. – A hundred percent the
coil’s definitely better. – I’m not sure about that. – Definitely better. – Honestly, (sped up voices arguing) Hold on, you still there? Oh guys. Yeah you should probably subscribe if you haven’t done that already. See you later. – Coil’s better. – It’s not.