E-Bike Motor Trends | Riva Del Garda 2019

E-Bike Motor Trends | Riva Del Garda 2019


– At Sea Otter, we saw the
e-bikes were front of house for a lot of brands. A lot demo events from
the likes of Specialized, Trek, Haibike, and Bosch. Here at Garda, things are
even more at the forefront when it comes to e-mountain bikes. However, we’ve seen a lot of brands which have not come out
with new mountain bikes for a few years. Is that because then they’ve been focusing on trail, enduro, or downhill? (electronic pulsating) Probably not. The thing is a lot of
passion within brands is actually now with e-bikes and a more likely answer is
that future e-bike developments are probably led more by the motor. After all, why make a new
bike with an old motor? Now Fazua is a classic example and they’ve caught the
imagination of many brands with their lightweight
battery and lightweight motor. And because you’ve got a blanking plate, you can actually take
out the battery motor and stick in that blanking
plate and you’ve got two bikes. You’ve got e-bike or a non e-bike. And as we’ve seen here at
Garda Festival, a kids e-bike. 12 months ago, nobody
heard of kids e-bikes. Now it’s amazing how popular
the Shimano STEPS motor has become in recent years on bikes such as the Canyon, the Focus, the Intense, the Merida,
Husqvarna, there’s no end of bikes and in the YT Decoy, a bike
that is thoroughly up-to-date. Now the Shimano STEPS
motor’s been out three years. Are we likely then to see a
new Shimano in years to come? Well, quite likely. Only last year they
came out with the E7000, which was a more cost-effective motor for less expensive e-bikes. But I think the bigger questions is are we likely then in
future to upgrade our motors in the same way as we are
currently upgrading cranks, cassettes, derailleurs so upgrading the motor, rather
than upgrading your bike? Yeah, it really is the old
chicken and egg scenario. However you could argue that
the mountain bike industry has always had collaborations
with suspension, gearing, and componentry manufacturers. However, maybe that relationship with the e-bike motor makers
goes actually far deeper and it relies on the
efforts of such companies as Brose, Shimano, Yamaha, and Bosch. Hmm, Bosch, there are simply so many bikes that use Bosch motors: CUBE, Radon, Mondraker, Moustache, Trek. Surely there’s got to be some
new motor on the horizon. Yes, Bosch, they’ve been quiet for a while when it comes to motors
however it is rumored that there is a new motor on the way. After all, their current
motor, the CX motor, is actually heavier, bigger, noisier, and with more drag than a
lot of the e-bike motors on the market. However we do know that
with the Active Line, Bosch certainly know how to reduce drag ’cause that is super light. We’ll have to wait and see. And then, of course, you have motors which have been tweaked
by different brands. It’s well known that there’s a Brose motor inside this Specialized S-Works but the key thing here is that Specialized have
done their own configuration, their own software, to
get what they believe the maximum performance
of that Brose motor. But of course, Brose’s
also used on other bikes, such as the Fantic and
also the ROTWILD bikes so again, the same motor
but different software. Now look, we’ve already talked about some of the main motor brands here, such as Bosch, Brose,
Shimano, Fazua, Yamaha, TQ but as we saw in Eurobike last year, there’s a whole hall dedicated
to motor manufacturers from all over the world so it’ll be really
interesting how things develop over the next few years. You know, we’ve already
seen the likes of Bafang and that German company Sachs already developing
e-mountain bike systems. You could argue, I suppose, that some of the key e-bike innovation is coming less from the
mountain bike brands than from the motor manufacturers and that once a new motor drops, then lots of mountain
bikes will remain the same for several years. Or maybe it could be like
so if Forester or Yamaha start making mountain bikes of their own with their own motor,
own battery, own frame. Or indeed, Croatian super
car manufacturer Rimac and their Greyp bike. Kresimir Hlede is the
chief operations manager for Greyp bikes in Croatia. Kresimir, what are the benefits of having your own
motor, your own battery, and your own frame, as opposed to, say, a lot of mountain bike brands
who bring the motors in? – Well, in our case, our core competences are
electronics and software and we can create a
different user experience. So most of the brands are
forced to buy off-the-shelf components from companies
like Brose and Bosch and basically have no
differentiation in user experience compared to their competitors. In our case, it’s different. So we literally can tweak
the motor the way we like it. We can tweak the battery
the way we like it. We even have in our mobile application a possibility to change the settings of the torque sensitivity of the motor. These are things that
you cannot do with Bosch and Bosch will not allow you
to play with their system. – So Kresimir, how
important is the motor then? – Well, let me answer by
asking you a question. Who is the manufacturer
of the brakes on your car? – I’m not telling you. I don’t actually know. I’m not even telling you
the manufacturer of my car. – Perfect but you know
whether you like it or not. Our focus is user experience, not the name of the component. If the user likes the user experience that we are providing,
they don’t give a (bleep) whether it’s this or that brand. We don’t believe that
motor is that essential for the user experience. It has to be good but that’s it. – Then, of course, there’s the competition between the motor
manufacturers themselves. Lighter, smaller, more torque. Panasonic GX0 coming your way pretty soon. Now the TQ motor is a classic example of one of those bodes that really has captured people’s imaginations. We’ve seen it on bikes such
as the M1 Sport-Technik but, of course, what it’s most famous for is on the new FLYON bike. It’s been a really big
part of the innovation of that whole system on the new Haibike. Hey look, cameras, cars, smartphones, everyone’s stressing about upgrading. Having said that, it
is actually a question you guys ask us quite frequently. Should I wait for the new motor? Well, nah, just get on with your life because if you think about it, that question has been around
way before motors arrived and it’ll continue to be in years to come. Hey listen, don’t stress about motors. Just get yourself a beer or just get in the hills
and ride your bike. Stefan Willared, the man behind
the team of the YT DECOY. He’ll tell you that as well. Let’s hear your thoughts
on this video about motors. I’m sure there’ll be a load of questions. In the meantime, if you want to checkout such things as the Shimano E7000 motor, just down by some by here. In the meantime, give a
thumbs up to the video, click on the globe, subscribe. Cheers, Stefan. – Cheers.
(clinking)