– Are E-Bikes the great leveler? Do they bring equality to
the hills and to the woods? On a physical level, do they
bring mountain bikers together, or do they split them apart? But more than this, do E-Bikes
narrow or widen the gap between riders of different
ages, weights and abilities? (soft electronic music) So, you might be wondering,
why am I surrounded by these E-Bikes and conventional bikes. And it’s because, today,
we welcome back to EMBN, Specialized’s own — – B-ding! (laughs) – Georgia Leslie – Hiya.
– Georgia, how you doing? – Not bad, how are you? – Good stuff, yeah, I’m alright, yeah. – Real question is, have you
been watching Love Island? – (laughs) Course, I’m sure
everybody’s been watching Love Island. – Good, of course. – Thing is, you ready to ride some bikes? – Are you ready to get serious
about riding some bikes? – Absolutely. So there you
go, that is today’s question. Are myself and Georgia closer together, or further apart on e-bikes
compared to conventional bikes? So you’ve brought some bikes with you. – [Georgia] I did. – Talk us through the bikes
we’re going to be using today. – Okay, so we’ve got
matching Levos, Levo Experts. You’ve got an extra
large, I’ve got a medium. We’ve got matching tires, Butcher GRIDs, very important for a hill climb. – Absolutely, and what about
the conventional bikes? – So we’ve got two Enduros,
you’ve got an Enduro Elite. – [Steve] Whoa, whoa, whoa, in pink? – [Georgia] In bright pink.
I did that on purpose, I have to admit. It is your color. – [Steve] Thanks, thanks. – [Georgia] It really suits you. – [Steve] Again, matching tires? – [Georgia] Matching tires, yep. Both got Ohlin’s forks, and — – [Steve] Same gearing? – [Georgia] Same gearing,
yeah, so ready to go. – First up, lets get
some facts in the bank. – Lets do it. – How heavy and how old are you? – I’m still 54 kilos, (Steve laughs) – Even though I’ve been
eating lots of pies, you know. And I am 20. – Oh, crikey, wow. – Got a question for you. – Yeah, what’s that? – How light, and how young are you? – How light and how young am I? Well, I am actually 50
years old, and 94 kilos. (Georgia laughs) – Old and fat. – What, you? Lets go, come on. So here we are, on the start line. We’ve got our conventional bikes, specialized Enduro, a brace
of Enduros, 160 mil travel, and we’ve got a hill climb ahead of us. Georgia, how’s this gonna go? – Do you know, I’m kind of
skeptical about this one. – Skeptical or scared? – I think a bit of both,
actually. You’re quite scary. – Who’s gonna have the fastest climb on a conventional bike? – Well, you’ve been practicing. – Oh, don’t give me that,
you’re on the bike all the time. Look, straight up, straight
question, who’s gonna win this? You or me? – You.
– Because? I’m twice your age, and I’m much heavier. – You rode road bike in Lycra yesterday. (soft music) – So here we are, oldies versus youths,
England versus Wales. I’m going to go first, to put
some massive pressure on you, because of your king sized torque. Count us in. – Ready? – Yeah. – Five, four, three, two, one, go. Go, go, go, go, go! He’s going a bit fast. Well, since Steve’s — (bleep) – I’ll have to count myself in. Three, two, one. (soft music) – Oh my God. (Georgia blows hard) – First hill climb done
on the conventional bikes, in 30 degree heat. I have to say, Georgia, out of the gate it was
pretty brutal to start with. And then I got around the
corner and I was panicking all the way, thinking “Georgia
is gonna be absolutely smoking me in this climb”. I was in bloody Eagle, I was in — – So was I. From about here. – I was in the lowest
gear to get up the hill. And I was actually, I
was blowing like hell, sweating like hell. You look pretty fresh, what was your time? – It’s a secret. – Oh, come on. – Oh, okay. Hang on. – So, this is the key thing. How far apart are me and
Georgia on conventional mountain bikes? I’ll get my timer out. – He definitely beat me. Hundred percent. – Really, so you think
then that I’m going to be faster than you on this hill climb? – Yeah. – Bearing in mind that I’m 50 years old, and you’re less than half the age, and considerably lighter.
Sure common sense — – But you’ve been training. It has been known, Steve
wore Lycra yesterday, and went out on a road bike. – Common Sense — Secrets are coming out. – Georgia, shut up a minute. Common sense is gonna tell you
that you’re gonna be faster. Look, enough of the
chit-chat, what’s the times. Right, I went with Four. Thirty Two — – Shut up — – Seventy Seven – Are you — (bleeps) – 4:32:77. Georgia? – [Georgia] 3:46. (laughs) Yes! Ha-ha. Again, Steve. Oh, smoked. – I mean, do you know what I mean? A minute. – Yeah, well.
– A minute. – A minute, on a five minute hill. – My bike’s lighter than yours though. – No, the bikes are identical,
don’t give me that — (bleeps) – Alright, fair enough. – One minute.
– Good job. – So, the question is, can e-bikes level those
big differences on times, between weight, age, and bikes? (soft music) – Georgia Leslie, England,
(speaks in foreign language) Go! – Ahhh! – Right, I’m going to count myself in. Three, (speaks in foreign language), go. See you later. (soft electronic music) – Oooh. (breaths heavily) Aah. (breathes heavily) Dead. Woooh (soft electronic music) – First round on the traditional — – Are you alive, are you okay? – Georgia, so first run
on the conventional bike. – Yeah. – I was on 4:32:77, right? – Yes, you were. – What’d you get? – 3:46. – 3:46, that’s like a minute, one minute. – A whole minute. – A whole minute —
– And a bit. – I was slower. I tell you what, though, we went into eco mode
on the e-bikes, holy — (bleep) was I absolutely knackered,
hitting that first corner. – I know, my legs were
screaming by that corner. – What is it then, is that a
massive lactic buildup, right? – You’d have to ask a scientist. (laughs) – I thought you were a scientist. – Shut up. – Here, I’m going to
shock you with some pies. (both laugh) – Five kilos of pies! – Hey look, seriously,
seriously. Alright, seriously. The shot, me on the bike as eco, I went up there in three minutes, 10:84. – You nailed that. I don’t understand how you’ve
done it so much quicker. – Honestly, I put loads of effort in. So that for me, that is
like one and a half minutes quicker than a conventional bike. – [Georgia] That’s insane – One and a half minutes quicker. Georgia, what was your time in eco? – My time in eco was 3:15. – [Steve] 3:15?
– [Georgia] Yeah. – [Steve] So that’s like
five seconds slower than me. – [Georgia] Yeah. – [Steve] Which is a total mystery. – [Georgia] We have no
idea what’s happened there. – But still, still 20 seconds faster than a conventional bike. So still faster. So the question is, me and
you actually did level up when we got to the e-bike. – We did, eco. – We equalized. – Five seconds. – We equaled on the
e-bikes, which is mental. – It is. – Which is totally different
to what me and Georgia did in the 1,000 foot dead feature, which was on EMBN quite recently. So check that out to
see that head to head. But Georgia, here we go, the big story. When we move to Turbo mode on the e-bikes, we had a bit of a, you know,
bit of pace to the bike. – We did. We worked out a plan, didn’t we? – Bit of a plan. So what did you get – Get to the steep bit, — – What did you get? – Go for it. One, fifty-one. – [Steve] 1:51? – [Georgia] Yeah, in Turbo. – [Steve] So compared to
your conventional bike, that’s two minutes, two minutes faster. – [Georgia] Two whole minutes. – So 1:51, I did, on the
Turbo level, in Turbo mode, I was 2:06. So ten seconds slower. – [Georgia] But, they’re so much closer. – So that means, we can
go for a ride together, and it’s all good. It doesn’t matter about the weight, or the age — – No. – The e-bikes, I think e-bikes
are a good leveler then? Right? – Oh, hundred percent. We just proved it. – Look, all we did was did one
run on one hill on a hot day, with a couple of cokes. – So true. – Coca-cola — – And a salad. – Yeah, so there you go.
E-bikes are a total enigma, certainly as far as the
eco mode is concerned, don’t know how I were quicker. – Baffled. Total baffled. – But yeah. Baffled, falafeled,
chicken salad, sooler. – Are you feeling okay?
Steve’s had an interesting day. – So there you go. So there you go. Are e-bikes the great leveler?
I think we’ve proved that. If you want to see more e-bike challenges, there’s a great one, myself and Georgia, 1000 foot dead, which
you’ll find somewhere in the dust over there now, because I think we should revisit that. – I think we should. – Also we did one with
Georgia’s close neighbor, Ollie Wilkins, you’ll find that over here. – Yes. – Georgia, thanks for coming down. – Thank you for having me. – We’ve got an Airbus
A380 coming overhead, so the cameraman will
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