Brand New Tech From The Giro d’Italia | The GCN Tech Show Ep.19

– Welcome to the GCN Tech Show. This week we’ve got custom
paintwork, Sagan riding a tricked up bike, Giro d’Italia Tech, plus another product gets inducted to the GCN Wall of Fame. (upbeat music) Well what is hot in tech this week? Well, let’s start with
gravel bikes, shall we? Because well, it’s been a week hasn’t it? Since we last spoke about them. And first up, Peter Sagan, triple World Road Race champion. He took part in the first edition of the Sagan Fondo in
Truckee in California. And he took to the start line on well, a pretty tricked up bike
I’m sure you’ll agree. So apparently, the route
of that Sagan Fondo was basically ideal
for a cyclecross bike or a hardtail mountain bike. And Sagan’s bike for that was in fact, a specialized S-Works Diverge from the Sagan collection, nonetheless. And maybe, just for Si, he decided to remove his front derailleur. How did he do that, though? Well the bike as standard,
really does in fact come with a Shimano Dura Ace Di2 group set. And he took off that front derailleur and decided to run it one by. But how did he do that? Well, he swapped out the Dura Ace rear mech for a Shimano XT mountain bike Di2 model with one of those clutch mechanisms. So of course, keeping
that chain tension nice and good, trying to minimize
the chain coming off. How else could he have stopped the chain coming off? Well, by the looks of things, he had a special narrow wide
chain ring on there, too. So presumably something from the likes of Wolf Tooth or other
third-party manufacturers. Now, if ever there was
a reason for saddle bags to be cool, this is one reason. Peter Sagan uses one so
check out that underneath his saddle, it’s quite a neat
little solution, isn’t it? I can just about see a
CO2 canister or two, in fact, tucked away there. Then of course there’s
the telltale Zipp stem on the bike too, which is covered up with a bit of electrical tape so as to not upset any sponsors. Now interestingly, Sagan didn’t take to the start line with
number one on his number there on the front of his handlebars. In fact, number one was reserved for Mike Sinyard, who is the founder and chairman of Specialized. So, yeah, best to keep those
sponsors happy, isn’t it? Sticking out there in
California for the time being, the squad of Rally Cycling,
where they’re gonna have six of their riders on
some very special bikes for the AmGen Tour of California, which is just around the corner. So for the third year
running, they’ve partnered up with United Healthcare
Children’s Foundation. And these special bikes
will be auctioned off during the race and the money will go to some very well-deserved recipients. So riders from the
actual Rally Cycling team interviewed these children
and then their answers were used as inspiration for the painter to be able to come up with what I think look absolutely fantastic
Diamondback frames. Just check them out! So the final designs are hip-hop dance. Classic cruiser, gymnastics, World War 2, gladiator, and the great outdoors. So keep a close eye out for those at the Tour of California. I think they look absolutely brilliant, like I’ve already mentioned
a couple of times. Now my personal favorite is probably the great outdoors, I think there’s some great detail on there. I always think to myself,
if I was gonna get a custom painted frame,
I would go for something really wild and wacky and cool like that. But then, I would ultimately bottle it and just go for something
really plain and simple. Anyway, let me know which is your favorite down there in the comments below. Now last week, Si and I,
we put the question to you: Does it really matter
where your bike is from? Or where is it built? Now, as ever, the comments
have been flooding in. And yep, they’ve caused some quite heated debates in there too. But here’s some of our favorites. Let’s have a quick read then, shall we? First up from Lisy Rajam. They say, it does matter
where your bike is made because for people having
more money or sponsors, to buy bikes doesn’t matter. But where it’s made for people like them, who work very hard to buy a bike, it does matter where it’s made. Yeah, I totally agree with
that because obviously, if you don’t have a huge disposable income and you can’t afford to
be buying, potentially, new bikes all the time, you want your bike to be able to last for
a long time, don’t you? So yeah, good comment on that one. Daniel Phua, it doesn’t
matter where my bike was made, what matters
is the quality control on the bike is of high standards. 100% agree with that. Quality control is vital. Newt Tella, they basically echo that. Doesn’t matter where
it’s made, what matters is how good the quality control is. And also, interestingly, a good company will stand behind their product. Yep, and that is very, very true. Wayne Softy P, they’ve
got some advice actually for GCN viewers and that
is to do your research. Not on the label, but
where the bike is made and also the quality control. So carbon fiber is a manual process that requires the carbon
weave and bonding resins to be compressed and cured
to give full design strength. The design can be great,
but if the bike is not made with all the fibers
and resin compressed as required, it will not
have it’s design strength. Now that is totally true. I’m not saying anybody out there can make a carbon-fiber frame,
but obviously the process of assembling all of those carbon weaves and assembling the carbon
layers, that is vitally important for the ride quality, basically. As well as the overall quality of that bike being made. So yeah, you’ve got a very good point there, Wayne. Teun Luijbregts, no but who made it does. I’m not sure about that one really because you could have
someone who’s made it on I don’t know, an off day, perhaps? And they’ve not had a
good quality control. So I think quality control
is really, really vital rather than the actual
person who’s making it. Now thecyclinguitarist,
they’ve got a little tale here of an experience they’ve had. They commissioned a bamboo frame with the intention
basically of buying local and supporting the little guy. The frame apparently was delivered a year and a half later
than the original ETA. By which time they wrote off the costs due to lack of communication and anything resembling customer service. That’s a bit of a sad
tale, isn’t it really? Because I guess that bamboo frame does need to basically
grow doesn’t it, for you. Now I’m not taking sides
or anything like that, but sometimes you do have to have a lengthy wait as well for a carbon or even a steel frame to be built. So it’s not just the exception
there of a bamboo frame. Now mrgrumpy53 is an
avid commenter on GCN Tech. I think he comments on just about every single video we do. Now he says if it’s a no-name bike, you’ll never know if it was built and designed by experts. There are some no-name bikes that come out of factories that are top quality, just like there are some no-name bikes that are made in another
factory that are junk. You see the same problem
with guitars, apparently. Beware of counterfeits. Yeah I can totally
sympathize with this one. I read on some forums about people who buy from certain factories and basically, they are ultra-impressed
with their frames. And then of course, someone else buys from another factory no-name frame and it is absolute junk. So if you are gonna do that, make sure you do your homework because otherwise, it could leave you out of pocket. Now Nik Blyth, would any
of the GCN presenters be worried about using an
unbranded carbon frame, carbon wheels, or carbon
cockpit that was bought, for instance, through eBay. Now their thought is there could be some issues with quality control, etc. Now funny enough Nik with this. I have actually bought in the past, I did in fact by a pair of carbon wheels. No name, so I didn’t
know anything about them, essentially, I knew what
hubs they were on them. As for quality, to be honest with you, I paid probably about $250 roughly, something like that plus a little bit extra for shipping and
then some for import tax. Quality wise, initially
I was fairly impressed. But after awhile, basically
you get what you pay for. In my case, I probably got less than what I paid for. Because yeah, it didn’t last very long. And I did put them over
some rough roads out there. Yeah, you do get what you pay for. So in answer to your
question, I have tried it. I don’t know about the other guys, but yeah I have. Jon Burnell, they would
happily buy something unknown if they knew they were as good as a pair of Zipps, for instance. However, brands have a reputation, therefore their products
can be trusted more and that has a lot of sway when it comes to people parting with their money. Yeah, I totally agree with that because when you are
buying a branded product from one of these big brands, you know that the quality control of them, as well as the design and the research, is going to be top-knotch. So you have that kind of faith in there. Or certainly I do. Now, D Eldon, he has put a big old response here as well. Does it matter where your bike is made? Yes it can. Those few companies who
design and manufacture carbon components, or
composite components, in-house have a huge advantage because of the close collaboration between the design engineers and the production team. So they own everything. The molds, the ovens, all the machinery and tools for production. So he knows two examples
in the USA, for instance. Zipp, they design and manufacture, it’s carbon wheels, in-house. And Allied Cycleworks, they design and manufacture its carbon
road frames in-house. Now, interestingly, I like this point actually that he finishes with. What they look forward to is the day when carbon layup can be fully automated into the production line. This should dramatically lower the cost for carbon components and hopefully, make them more affordable. They also hope it will
increase the frame size and geometry options that can be offered. Now, as Si and I spoke about last week. The actual process of building things. So, for instance, a Sram red chain set. Yeah, it’s not an easy process. There are lots of different bits of carbon that make up some things like that. So a frame, for instance,
that could take a long time to actually lay the carbon
in the correct places. So yeah, if there was an automated way of doing that in the future, that would be absolutely fantastic and I
look forward to seeing it. Now Perfect Tomorrow and Eiehander49, they seem to like Italian bikes. So Perfect Tomorrow, Italian bikes are the most popular but
also the most expensive. And Einhander49, if it
ain’t made in Italy, it ain’t a real bike, bro. Now funnily enough, that
used to be the case, for me anyway, probably about 25 years ago or something like that when basically, the Italian bikes,
certainly in road cycling, where the ones that you lusted after. Probably because the heritage and everything like that. But to be honest with you, in my opinion, things have changed, things have moved on. And whilst italian bikes
are still absolutely beautiful and I still love them, great bikes come out of
different countries, too. Now, Petinka, there she commented, hand made bikes, such as the GCN bike, that’s the one that
Simon’s got and was made by The Bicycle Academy down in Frome. Yeah, he doesn’t have a front derailleur on it, but we’re not gonna
go into that right now. They think, basically they’re the best because although they
cost a little bit more, you feel at one with the bike. They also follow up by saying, if you don’t have the
money to buy one of those, then buy local so then
you feel like you’ve done something good for people
who live in your area. It’s a nice sentiment, that. Not everyone though has
a great local bike shop. And some people live in
the middle of nowhere. But I do know where you’re coming from. So I like that. Now finally, Gungan Works. In my opinion, the
ultimate hand-built bikes are the bikes you build yourself. There is nothing like the
feeling of riding a bike that you designed and built yourself. Not only is a home-built
bike less expensive, but you can design it
to be the perfect size and geometry for where you ride. Now initially, when I saw this comment, I was thinking to myself,
hand-building a bike for yourself, doing
everything on your own? What on earth is this
person talking about? So we said, that’s true! What could you build? And believe it or not,
Gungan Works got back to us. They’ve built six recumbents in the last four years, each with
a unique frame style. Basically, all but one of them were their own design. And check out this! This is one if its own designs. That looks absolutely fantastic. I don’t know much at all
about recumbent bikes, but we do get a lot of people asking for recumbents to be featured. So there you are. And that is one that’s been
designed and hand-built by one of our very own viewers. Next week, we’ll have another hot topic and debate for you. (dramatic music) Now, it’s the month of May,
so what does that mean? It means it’s the Giro d’Italia. And whilst I’m not on the ground there in italy right now, we have seen some new products being
used by the pros, yes! I love new tech. So first up actually, we
had this picture sent in from a GCN Tech fan out there in Israel. They bumped into Tom Dumoulin and he appears to be using a new prototype integrated handlebar and stem! I don’t know anything more about it, but I’ll let you know
when I find out some more. Now the squad of Groupama FDJ, well some of the riders there, they’ve got their hands on a new bike. And I reckon it’s called the Zelies SL2. Basically it’s an upgrade,
or rather an updated version of the previous Zelies SL. And how do I know that name? Well, basically I looked on the UCI’s list of approved frames and
forks and it was in there as one of the recently signed-off models. Now instantly, you look
at it and you think, well that looks a bit like
one of those GT frames from a little while ago, really. With those triple-triangle design frames. But it’s not a triple-triangle design. It is in fact, the stays do go into the top tube rather
than the seat tube. So any road buzz, apparently, is going to be dissipated better
through the top tube rather than the seat tube and top tube. And there the head tube on the bike is more aerodynamic in design, so it takes a slightly different shape. And then you’ve got a very neat aerodynamic headset top-cap cover. Now sticking with Groupama
FDJ, how about this for a bit of neat number
pinning by Steve Morabito? Well in fact, it’s not even
a number pinning, is it? That is a number which
is basically slid inside of what is a clear stretchy plastic pocket which appears to be
bonded onto the jersey. Now I don’t know if this
is from Nopinz or not. But in the past, I do believe that FDJ have worked with Nopinz
for those solutions. But why would they
actually want to do that? Well importantly, it’s to keep that number flat on your back so it’s
not acting like a windsail. We do see that used by quite a few teams out there. So keep your eyes peeled and you’ll definitely see it. And it won’t be long, I don’t think, until we see riders start to adopt it even during road races
and not time trials. Now when I used to race,
I used to put about eight pins on each number to get them as flat as possible and
not like a windsail. Now by being aerodynamic like that, it is going to save you some watts because you’re not gonna be trapping or disturbing the wind. Or at least, minimizing it. Now speaking of saving
watts, well the folks at CeramicSpeed, they’ve been busy decking out their riders
at AG2R La Mondiale with some very fetching pink pully wheels for their rear mecks. Now recently, Lloydy actually visited CeramicSpeed, so there is a link to those vidoes in the description below. Now for the geeks out there. What size pulleys are they using? Well on the 9100 rear mech, for the road stages, they’re using a 13-tooth upper pully
and a 19-tooth lower. And then in the time trials, they’re using the Dura Ace 9000 rear derailleurs with 17-tooth both upper and lower pulleys. So there we are, a little bit of geek trivia for you. Now back at the Dubai
Tour a few months ago, we saw a new helmet on
the heads of Team Astana. And that was called the Airspeed. And guess what? A few months later, they’ve got another new helmet out. This one’s called the Airmaster. So it’s got a few more vents on there and it certainly does look like it’s gonna breathe a little bit easier. It’s only got three more vents. And one of those, importantly I think, is that one on the top. Which is just gonna
scoop a little bit more extra air in top to help cool you down. Another new helmet we’ve seen is from HJC, who of course are the
sponsor of Lotto Soudal. We know nothing more about this helmet other than it’s a TT helmet and basically, the visor needs to be
held on with magents. Judging by this image, and then Met, they’ve got a new helmet too by the looks of it. So as seen on the riders from UAE Team Emirates, TT helmet obviously. And well it certainly narrower than their previous model, which was called the wide-body drone. So maybe this one is
just called the drone? Now another thing I spotted at both of the Giro d’Italia and the Tour de Yorkshire is what I think a new marginal gain for Team Sky. So fluorescent yellow
musettes, or feedbacks. So for those of you who don’t know, the feedzone of a bike
race is probably about 500 meters long or up to
a kilometer sometimes. And basically the helpers of a team, they stand there holding out a bag which has some food in there, a gel, maybe a cheeky little can of Coke for the riders to take on board. So this is a very, very
hectic place to be. Both for the helpers as well as the riders because normally you’ve got a peloton who are all looking for their helpers. And generally, those little
bags are either white or black and not easy to spot your team. So using a fluorescent
yellow one, easy to spot. Little marginal gain. Now of course, a grand tour wouldn’t be a grand tour without Adam Hansen. So there he is and he’s got himself a pair of those custom shoes
that he makes himself, believe it or not, as
well as a sound board. A pretty cool-looking Ridley with looks to be a 20 there on it, too. Of course celebrating his
20th grand tour in succession. Now interestingly, apparently
this is going to be Adam’s last grand tour in a row. Which is quite sad news really, because he’s done a lot of those. That’s a long time to be on the bike. Now, I must just give a shout-out actually to Adam’s teammate, Sander Armee who was stung by a wasp or a bee just before the prologue time trial of the Giro d’Italia. And well, check out that. That is some serious swellage of the face. At first, I thought that
was some fancy new tech that he was using across his forehead. But I think it’s just some of that Kensio tape or something like that. Anyway, I’m glad to
report that he’s all okay now and that swelling has gone down. Now Peter Sagan, we
mentioned him at the top of the show and he’s got
himself some new shades. They are the S2 model from 100%. Now, 100%, basically they burst into the cycling scene a couple of years ago and they’ve made a huge impression. Largely because they’re
instantly recognizable by the previous models
that Sagan was wearing. Because well, they’re pretty oversized and they are an acquired taste. This new model though, they do away with that full frame design and I think they look much better, Peter. So a big thumbs up from
me, nice one, mate. Finally for tech of the week this week, a big shoutout to Simon Warren who’s the author of those 100 Climbs books. Which I do believe Tom
Last is a big fan of. He just launched actually the 100 greatest Tour de France climbs app
to accompany the book that’s already out there. And this is a great example of smart tech that I certainly approve of. As well as it being highly interactive, you can also link it up with your Strava so you can see whereabouts you figure on those segments. And then get this, you
can even navigate yourself to the bottom of that climb. Now when you get there,
there’s some facts about that climb, so essentially
you could pace yourself better over it rather
than bonking halfway up. And well, crawling the rest. More tech next week. So last week we inducted
the the Vitus 979. Tasty bit of kit, that. But this week, I’m taking it back a few more decades and it’s time for the chamois, that’s right. So up until the 1940’s,
basically cyclists, they didn’t have a pad in their shorts. So they would ride along in wool shorts or cotton shorts and basically
suffer in silence, I guess. I don’t know I wasn’t around. But I guess there was
probably a few choice words every now and then. And then, in the 1940’s, sheep leather was actually sewn into some shorts to provide basically a bit of respite against the irritating, chafing
that you would be getting. And then in the late
1940’s, and early 50’s, an Italian company Demarkie
actually experimented with some other types of leather. So one of them was deer leather because it was slightly softer, and also able to be shaped a little bit better too. And then basically
cyclists, they carried on using that for about 30-odd years. And I guess still, yeah,
suffered in silence. Because there was no real comfort given from that chamois. Because it wasn’t a pad, remember. And then in the mid-80’s, we began to see what are now commonplace,
the synthetic chamois. Or pads rather that are able
to be shaped really well. They’re much more hygienic. Sometimes I’ve even had gel in them, believe it or not, to also give it a little bit of extra comfort. And basically, a much
more hygenic solution. My personal favorite
about this was the fact you don’t have to grease them anymore. Yep that’s right, so
those original shammies, once you washed your shorts, you would actually have to use some special grease to actually soften that leather again. Otehrwise it would crack
and render it useless. I do remember that in my
first-ever pair of shorts. Now, do remember to leave your nominations for the GCN Wall of Fame
in the comments down below. And tune in next week and who knows, maybe we’ll have picked yours! (high tech noises) Bike of the Week time! And last week, we put
head to head the Bianchi of Primoz Roglic and the Ridley of Jens Keukeleire. And it does in fact seem
that the Bianchi fans, you have been out in force. Maybe to spite me or maybe
you just love that bike. Anyway, 81% of you voted
(applause) for that Oltre XR4. Well done. Anyway right, let’s move
on then to this week’s. So, we’ve got two custom bikes here from the Giro d’Italia. First up in the pink corner is the bike of Rohan Dennis,
(bell dinging) that’s his BMC Teammachine. As you can see, very pink. And we’ve got a pair of
Shimano C40 tubular wheels. A Shimano Dura Ace Di2 groupset. And I think that’s a nice-looking bike. But, don’t vote just yet because in the purple-colored corner, we’ve got the bike of Elia Viviani of Quick Step Floors. Specialized Venge vias disc. So of course, Shimano Dura Ace Di2 groupset with those disc-brakes. And he’s got some purple editions on there, too. I’m a little bit dissapointed that Elia hasn’t shown
us his purple helmet on there too, but hey, you have to vote. So vote up there in the corner and next week, we’ll reveal the results and have two more bikes head-to-head. (high tech noises) So it’s time for the bike vault where we get to rate your bike. Nice! Or super nice! So let’s crack on then, shall we? First up, Cameron from Estonia. And his Scott Foil. Now I do like the look of that. Looks to me like he’s
got a GCN water bottle in the bottle cage, you
always get extra points for that, Cameron. You know how to tickle me. Ultegra groupset and
I do like the backdrop there too, it looks like
a lake or something. Yeah, it’s absolutely lovely, that. It reminds me of just one of those amazing summer rides you have with no real purpose or intention, you just go
out and you find yourself a nice place to take a
picture of your nice bike. Nice one, Cameron, nice looking bike. But, why have I got two things out here? Well, first up I’ve got the nice bell and the super nice horn. Because Si’s not here, Lasty’s not here, Dan’s not here, Emma’s not here, they can’t tell me what to do today. Yes! So that’s a nice bike.
(bell ringing) Right, next up Dominic,
from Brighton in the UK. Now this is a giant Propel but it’s painted up in Gulf racing colors. I don’t really know
what to think about this because your bike’s a
bike, it’s not a car. I like your thinking
behind it and everything, but I mean what have you got on here? We’ve got Schram red e-tap, we’ve got a rotor power meter, I don’t know what wheels they are actually, I can’t quite tell. Continental GP-4000 S2’s, nice tyres. Integrated bar and stem. It just doesn’t do it for
me, I’m afraid, Dominic. I don’t know what it is about it. I think it’s the colors. I’m gonna get shot down in the comments but I’m just not a fan of them. I’m really, really sorry. I’m sure that other people
will give you a super nice. For me though, it’s a nice. You’re gonna get the bell. Right, John Ricks of New Zealand. Check out these Servelo S-5. That’s a big bike, isn’t it? There’s a big head tube on it, there’s quite a bit of steering tube out there, too, but it
all looks in proportion. And I do like that bike. I absolutely love it, in fact, because it looks in proportion like I’ve just said. So 3T finishing kit. You’ve got it looks like
Sram Force, possibly. Yeah, that is a nice bike. Now, in fact, it’s a super nice bike because that view in the background is absolutely stunning. Nice one, John in New Zealand. (alarm rings)
(laughs) That’s bad, you thought
you heard the last of it. No, never. Right, Kay from Los Angeles in California. Check out this. It’s one of those Vitus
but do you know what? This is the carbon tubed one. Now it’s decked out, that looks to be certainly the derailleurs and shifters. It’s the Shimano Dura Ace 7000-400. Chain set not sure, it
looks like something a bit more modern. Wheels-wise, I can just about see a Mavic open 4CD, it looks like
decal on that rim still. Original Flight saddle,
yeah those deep-drop bars. I absolutely love those rims. Because the way that the breaking surface used to wear, is you braked and basically it would be highlighted
where your spokes were. Mrgrumpy53 and I, we had
a discussion about this in the comments recently. Anyway, this is about Kay’s bike from Los Angeles in California. That is super nice!
(alarm sounds) Well done, Kay. Right, final one. Natalie from Bristol. This is her first road bike. Bristol, of course, is just down the road from us here and well, it’s my home city. Yeah, that is absolutely stunning. That’s her Pinnacle, looks to be a 105 drive train, that’s
a great first road bike. Absolutely love it. And you’ve taken probably one of the most iconic views of Bristol, the Clifton suspension bridge. Of course, designed by
Isambard Kingdom Brunel, him, legendary inventor. Yeah, all I’ve got to say
about that is super nice. Because if anyone’s ever tried to ride up that little path, it’s ever so steep. So again, super nice bike.
(alarm sounds) Nice one, and yeah, the
horn is here this week. I’m not sure if I’ll be
allowed it next week. Maybe they’ll just ban
me from here in general. Anyway, remember to submit your photo of your bike including
details about the bike as well as where you
come to the email address on screen right now. And next week, we’ll have some
more bikes in the bike vault. It’s nearly time for the end of the show. I really don’t like this moment. Anyway, what is coming up
on the channel this week? Well on Saturday, I
got to look at the bike of Tejay van Garderen, that BMC Teammachine. Nice bike, that one. And on Sunday, we’ve got another pro bike. This time, a bike packing special. Monday, we’ve got some bike-packing maintenance hacks, and then there is a very different episode of the Ask GCN Tech Clinic on Wednesday. Because this one is all
about bike packing, whew! Now, do remember to like and share this video with your friends. And also, to check out the GCN Shop at Special products like this on sale during the month of May. And then for another great video, how about clicking down here for the big bike pack up that Dan go to look at in Abu Dhabi.